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Veils are turning the clocks back centuries
7:00pm Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Dear editor Regarding an article in the January 10 issue of Community News, I read about this in a national newspaper and was furious for a number of reasons.
1. Why did Jack Straw act so hypocritically? After saying last year that he insists on Muslim women's faces being uncovered when he speaks to them in his political surgeries, he should have given whole-hearted support to this brave magistrate.
Then, as Minister of Justice, he should have opened up a national debate on this very serious issue.
2. I have spoken to many Muslims, young and old, to try to find out why the custom still exists, and whether it is changing in this country.
The answer scares and disgusts me.
The usual answer is that it is for modesty, the same as with the slightly lesser evil of covering up the hair, so as not to excite the men.
Does that mean that Muslim men are supposed to have the dirtiest minds in the world?
3. Muslim women seem to be brain-washed about this custom.
They do not realise that it is an unnecessary custom - we do not have sandstorms to blow into their hair. Now, it is about showing their status as inferior to men.
The fear of leaving off head-scarves or wearing cool clothing to expose their arms in summer, is really a control issue by men over women.
4. Regarding covering the face in public as well, this really scares me when I see it. I think it is an abuse of women, and we should not tolerate it in this country.
A hundred years ago women were prepared to die for the freedom to be treated equally by law and society with the same rights and freedoms as men.
They went on hunger strike and endured awful situations in prison.
Respectable middle-class women did very unrespectable violent things in order to gain these rights for all women.
Even more fought the battle respectably, with meetings and petitions.
These women who insist on covering their faces are putting the clock back many centuries, and I am angry about the damage they are doing.
5. Women who still insist on covering their faces, theoretically, can do what they like in a free country, but not in a court of law, where everything should be open to judgement, and especially facial expressions.
6. If they want to be considered British, then this is one custom that has to go. I would consider it very rude if someone spoke to me with their backs to me, or from behind a fan, or hidden in some way.
If they insist on this custom, then they should leave Britain.
I am the daughter of an immigrant. I am proud of our family's integration, and am grateful for what this country gave to my mother and her family.
I hate to see new immigrants destroy what Britain used to be so proud of - it's tolerance. They are taking advantage of this tolerance by forcing examples of their own intolerance on us.
There should be a national debate on this, and I admire the courage of the magistrate who spoke up so sensibly, and deplore the hypocrisy of the politician who back-tracked women and the law into the Dark Ages.
Yours faithfully Megan Bennett, address supplied
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Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?
Egon, Poynton says...
2:09pm Tue 12 Feb 08
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Stan, Bramhall says...
7:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
How can judges or magistrates speak to people in court wearing veils?
For instance they need to know if the person under the veil is the person they think it is.
They also have to know if people are lying which they can often do by reading their facial features.
Again this is impossible with veil wearers.
Those in court have to remove hats, so why should people wearing veils be any different?