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Headline does a dis-service

11:25am Tuesday 20th March 2007

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By Stockport reader »

TO report Mark Hunter's proposals for a 20mph default limit in residential areas under the heading of an absolute joke' does a disservice to the communities your paper is read in.

It appears that the journalist has hunted down and put to prominence facts to suit his argument - the closing paragraphs deeply distort all the practical evidence and are from a very small lobby group, yet are given weight at the top and tail of the piece.

Simply put, Mr Hunter's proposal will save lives - it couldbe yours, your kids or your neighbours. It's a simple enough concept backed by compelling evidence: the transition from minor to non-minor injuries in road collisions happens at around 20mph.

Reducing speed from 30mph to 20mph reduces pedestrian deaths by 95 per cent and is a massive step towards creating streets that people feel confident using and enjoying.

It's not just about deaths, it's also about people feeling happy walking around on the streets they live in, and Mark Hunter's support for this Bill should be recommended. It's very disappointing to read such a weighted article on an issue so important to us as a national charity and to communities all over your area.

Lucy Abell, Living Streets


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Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Gryphon, Stockport says...
9:20am Mon 18 Jun 07

No one wants 20 mph speed limits in 30mph zones. Are you mad.
The traffic is bad enough now. Let's make it worse by slowing everyone down.
What an idiot!

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

Spencer, Stocky says...
2:34pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Is anybody surprised that as a representative of Living Streets (Lucy Abel) would be for a 20mph limit.
Personally, I am not.
It's like a vegan commenting on how well an abbatoir is run.

ijawuk, Macclesfield says...
8:35pm Mon 6 Oct 08

To suggest that all 30mph limits should be reduced to 20mph limits would be lunacy - but to suggest (as is the case) that residential areas should have a lower 20mph limit than the rest of any town/village is the purest logic of all.

Those who complain or campaign against it are probably the same kinds of lunatic who exceed the existing 30mph - and they ought to be dealt with severely.

Those who suggest its too difficult to control a vehicles speed at such low speeds s